Fred and I go down the hill to the creek and head off towards the Aoudad cave. We take a hike up a small incline I had gone up the last trip and take a turn to left of where I had gone last week and found the little "sewer pipe" sized cave. Low and behold, there's another cave here. Up at Eddie's, Richard had told us about a good sized cave that has a narrow entrance that only skinny folks could get into. I'm starting to wonder if this might be the entrance to that cave.