It's a short climb down to the ledge from the top of Eddie's water line although a touch spooky for someone afraid of heights (like me). In the distance is the cave (somewhat hidden by the tree top right of center in the picture). It's roughly about 100 feet up or so from the creek bed to the cave. I had tried climbing up from the bottom before and got roughly 30' up or so, but quickly gave up on that idea because of the height and steepness of the climb.